Re: 7-Zip / Bzip2

["Samuel J. Greear" <dragonflybsd@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Samuel J. Greear" <dragonflybsd@evilcode.net> wrote in message 
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> "Matthew Dillon" <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> wrote in message 
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> > :Hi,
> > :
> > :Posted this to kernel@ by accident, please reply here instead :)
> > :
> > :I just wanted to know if there's any interest for the devs to add
> > :something like p7zip to the base install; even if it's a simple fork
> > :that only supports 7z.  While 7zip is about as obnoxiously slow as
> > :bzip2, it usually gets much better compression.
> > :
> > :That's not why I'm suggesting it though - what really gets me is that
> > :bzip2 has no "list" option.  Does that 10 gb bzip2 backup archive
> > :contain 100gb of data, or 200gb?  Other than dumping the entire
> > :archive to /dev/null through wc, there's really no way to do it.  Gzip
> > :will list files, but its compression ratio is awful.
> > :
> > :I imagine that other OSes are going to be watching Dragonfly very
> > :carefully in the next while as new the features (especially HAMMER)
> > :mature.  Maybe adding 7z will get yet another bandwagon going and
> > :there will be support across the board :)
> > :
> > :Best Regards,
> > :Ben Cadieux
> >
> >    Well, I think not in base, at least not unless a lot of people
> >    are using it.  p7zip is readily available via the pkgsrc tree
> >    and that's the most reasonable method of accessibility for
> >    now.
> >
> > -Matt
> > Matthew Dillon
> > <dillon@backplane.com>
>
> I do not know if DragonFly is actively tracking libarchive, but it seems
> to be "the ticket" for implementing new archiving/compression methods
> through a common mechanism. If one wanted to see 7z functionality
> in base implementing a libarchive provider is probably the way to go.
>
> I did a quick test at one point on the dfly distribution ISO and as I
> recall 7z was ~60% the size of bzip2 using standard settings.
> food+thought, etc.
>
> Sam

I got yelled at on IRC for not providing times, so here:

Key:
   Selected Archiver - Compression Time - Threads - FileSize

Source file:
   dfly-1.12.2_REL.iso - 295,512KB

Bzip2 - 0:27 - 4 - 108,742KB
Bzip2 - 1:24 - 1 - 108,742KB
Decompress: 0:10

GZip - 0:55 - 1 - 118,024KB
Decompress: 0:10

Zip - 0:55 - 4 - 118,024KB
Zip - 0:55 - 1 - 118,024KB
Decompress: 0:11

7Zip - 1:50 - 2 - 73,952KB
7Zip - 3:09 - 1 - 73,952KB
Decompress: 0:12


All done via the most unscientific methods available (reporting
user time as displayed by the 7Zip user interface), so treat it
as such. Tested on an Intel Q6600 (4x2.4GHz) w/ single SATA
disk.

"Default" compression settings were used across the board.
Everything was tested using the windows 7-Zip program, which
integrates all of these algorithms.

Sam