Re: Argh, Stray interrupts 2006

[Danial Thom <danial_thom@xxxxxxxxx>]

Talk about wasting a lot of time! lol

--- Dmitri Nikulin <dnikulin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 6/4/06, Ben Cadieux <ben.cadieux@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > O_o
> >
> > You guys sure waste a lot of time on trolls. 
> Too bad Danial didn't
> > post any official title, he's starting to
> remind me of the Jerry
> > Taylor incident.  It's pretty clear this guy
> is too ignorant to have
> > "23 years" of life experience, let alone that
> much time using unixes.
> 
> Let's do detective work!
> 
> He seems to have first appeared (at least by
> Google's omniscient
> perception) around about here:
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/9/20/129
> 
> This is a typical "we've broken XYZ so let's
> start developing hacks"
> lkml thread. He participated with less
> harassment intensity than here,
> but a little nonetheless. I think that case was
> justified.
> 
> Shortly after (well ok, three months), he
> posted here:
>
http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2005-12/msg00007.html
> This is on a surprisingly similar topic, so I
> figured it was something
> close to his heart. Still no abuse! He might
> not be a pure troll.
> 
>
http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2005-12/msg00017.html
> Arguing with Matt. It happens I suppose. Maybe
> he does know something,
> who knows?
> 
>
http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2005-12/msg00108.html
> Now that's insulting.
> 
> 
> So his modus operandi is changing. At first he
> made seemingly
> innocuous responses in other threads (there are
> probably more, that's
> the first example I found, and it's a good one)
> and escalated to
> insults as soon as it seemed to him that he
> could undermine a core
> developer. Now he goes out and starts
> escalating in a fresh thread.
> 
> He's a troll, but a devious one, and probably
> actually knows
> something. He *doesn't* know that there is no
> point in DragonFly
> working to be a user-friendly desktop OS now,
> since such efforts often
> get in the way of Real Work like the heroic
> effort Matt has applied to
> the kernel architecture, and so would defeat
> the point of DragonFly.
> We already have DesktopBSD and PC-BSD, and
> they're comparable to Linux
> in overall quality, so what's the problem?
> 
> A lot of corporations and zealots won't take up
> anything with a BSD
> license because of the past brain-dead GPL
> preaching of ESR and RMS,
> and no level of awesome installer will change
> their minds. If people
> voluntarily used Linux instead of BSD back when
> Linux was barely
> usable for anything at all
> (http://www.spatula.net/proc/linux/index.src),
> who could reasonably
> expect that the situation will reverse now,
> when Linux has billions of
> dollars of momentum towards becoming usable,
> and BSDs are still
> focusing on the much less marketable task of
> actually working
> properly?
> 
> Heck, in a perfect world, users wouldn't have
> been brain-damaged by
> Microsoft and Apple and their ideas for how an
> interface should work,
> which is clearly the polar opposite of anything
> actually usable. Then
> BSDs and other real unices would be the natural
> choice because of
> their grand devotion to sanity and
> maintainability. But because users
> expect the same level of brokeness, security
> holes and frequent
> architectural failures of Windows in everything
> they run these days,
> they must turn to Linux distributions to suit
> their expectations. Put
> someone like that in front of a truly stable,
> logical and secure
> operating system and they think it's smoke and
> mirrors. Bah.
> 
>   -- Dmitri Nikulin
> 


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