Re: Stable tag will be slipped Sunday and release engineering will begin Monday

[Raphael Marmier <raphael@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

James Frazer wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:44:57 -0700, walt wrote:
>
> > My complaint (so far as I feel entitled to complain about something I
> > get for free) is that NetBSD's pkg_chk -u is (most often) a disaster for
> > me.
> >
> > Any time a gnome package is updated, all dependencies are deleted
> > immediately (without asking me first) and then (more often than not) one
> > of the replacement packages fails to compile -- leaving me with a pile
> > of smoking rubble instead of a functional machine.
>
>
>
> I've had this happen as well.  However, I have also had portupgrade burn
> me in the same way.  It will get half way through building and *bam* go up
> in flames, and leave me with half of a million dependencies installed on
> the system, and the other half not.
>
> I learned my lesson though -- never upgrade gnome with portupgrade the
> third time I tried the handy dandy 'gnome-upgrade.sh' script or whatever
> it was called.  Unfortunately, that to blew up on me and left me with a
> system that was totally messed up.

I think there is only one decent conclusion to draw from this:

We NEED rollbacks!

We need a easy and reliable way to roll back either the installed 
packages or the whole system, a filesystem or a directory to a previous, 
know working state.

all the other nit-picking about the perfect package system is akin to 
talking about the sex of the angels with regard to SAFELY upgrading a  host.

throwing the stone in the pond again ;)

Raphael