Re: GoBSD.com

[Weapon of Mass Deduction <blacklist@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jonas Sundström wrote:
> Weapon of Mass Deduction <blacklist@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  ...
>
> > So I agree with you, actually. :P
>
>
> Yes, I'm sorry, my style of writing is a little fuzzy.
>
> I'm sometimes unclear, as I'm focusing on the issue 
> rather than on the arguments I'm replying to.
>
> BTW, I must confess I'm not sure I understand everything
> you write, but perhaps it goes both ways. ´:)

Ah well, it's clear enough. :)

> > I'm writing of frontends that stand on their own, just like any other
> > port/programme. So this also doesn't exclude improvements on the 
> > 'back-end'. But you were the one that mentioned it first, remember. 
> > :P
>
>
> Yeah, I was more thinking of complete redesigns, which are more likely 
> to affect the interface exposed by a back end.

Hmm, I certainly don't disagree with your approach then. But the tools, 
especially the standard UNIX ones, must be accessible via the 
commandline (non-interactively). At least in the opinion of the more 
advanced users. So just like the commercial distribution-discussion,
we should mind to not "rush like an elephant trough the china-cabinet",
as we say it in Dutch. :D

> > Windows only has this option for (the highly-technical) unattended 
> > installs. But I remind FreeBSD (5) also has an option "Automatically
> > partition the [selected] disk.". So, though I never executed the 
> > installer of DragonFly-BSD, I expect it is avaible in that too.
>
>
> Yes, it's got similar functionality. The partitioning suggested
> by the installer is pretty good. I don't know how it works, but the
> values seemed pretty sensible to me.
>
> > But though the installer might not look very modern,
> > it is not more difficult to understand, right?
>
>
> Not really, but a little glitz ain't wrong. 
> First impressions and everything... ;)

Hehe, well with the two organisations I wrote about, we can all shove it 
on GoBSD, isn't it? >:) ;)

> > Except maybe the keyboard-navigation.
> > But that can be handled by the ncurses-developers 
> > (isn't that the tool used to visualise the installation?).
>
>
> Yes, it's either ncurses or http://, which are both fine with me, 
> though I think the current vertical list + "buttons" is a seriously bad 
> UI and needs to go. Not because it's ncurses based, but because it's a 
> bad UI. It's not clear what item has "focus" and what will happen when 
> you press return.
>
> Apart from that, I think the features of the installer are just right.

That's all true. :)

> > > Anyhow, I hope not all of this is bikeshed material. :]
>
>  ...
>
> > LOL, bikeshed material, that's some Swedish saying right? :D
> > I can't translate it, and it happens to be non-dutch also. :P
>
>
> Heh.. nah.. sometimes a little Swedish something slips through
> I guess, but I try not to use expressions that are unintelligible to
> the larger audience.
>
> It's a FreeBSD term that I myself learned quite recently:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#BIKESHED-PAINTING

Hehe, FreeBSD-expressions aren't really intelligible for a larger 
audience. :P
But it's a funny one, I'll remember it. :D

> BTW, Weapon.. err.. (mr Blacklist?).. your email bounces.
> It's hard to send email to you privately that way.

LOL, it was not a smart idea to send e-mail to that adress... I use it 
to let spammers uncover themselves to my ISP. The blacklist is, as it 
says, a blacklist. But if you e-mail bounced all should be fine I guess.

My nickname is just for anonymity, there are eyes everywhere. ;)

If you want to, you can send e-mail to tfa.x @ inter.nl.net.

> /Jonas Sundström.                www.kirilla.com