Re: Anybody working on removing sendmail from base?

[Timothy Cava <timothy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Robert Garrett wrote:
> Timothy Cava wrote:
>
>
> > David Rhodus wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > > Before we can start to remove packages like sendmail we need to have
> > > established our packaging system. Perhaps starting to work on a new
> > > installer framework or a package control system would be more suited
> > > at this current time.
> >
> > Somebody smarter than me will have to work on this, they're large
> > projects that require direction. I'd have to start from scratch to
> > know where that is...
> >
> >
> > > Once we at least have our package control mechanism wrote and tested
> > > only can we then look at removing large chunks of the tree. Trying to do
> > > so at this stage is too early on and would only destabilize the system
> > > and one that is not really in active development at this time.
> >
> > It will be interesting to see our new system when it's written. Perhaps
> > I can help at a later date, once I have more time, know what language
> > its in, the big picture, etc.
> >
> > -Timothy
>
> Theres no reason why a framework to use either a different mta, or 
> log the crap that gets emailed to root, couldn't be put in place
> before the new installation/package management system is written.
> it doesnt interfere with anything, and as far as userland stability 
> goes, its not gonna hurt us..
>
> Rob

Definately. I'd like to start that so that when we -do- change the
way mail inherently works in base, it will be seamless. Also then qmail
people, etc., will be able to use things in /etc and not feel that
something is "broken".

If anybody is interested, I also have a patch to STABLE's login from
some time ago that adds checking ~/Maildir at login (FreeBSD's login
doesn't care whether MAIL is a directory, so people who set their MAIL
to ~/Maildir always get "You have mail.".

http://www.flipthejig.net/login.diff

P.S. The while in checkmaildir() isn't really necessary, if any
file that doesn't begin with a . exists, there's mail, but I had
a version which said "You have %d new email%s"...

-Timothy